As American As Burning A Book In 1973
Just plain folks and their just plain righteousness
Never seems to be an end to stories about books being burned. It's almost a historic rite of passage, and in some cases good for sales. But the bottom line is, there is always someone around eager to force their way of thinking, however narrow, on the public in general under the guise of "protecting morals" while spouting pious righteousness at every opportunity and stir up the sentiments of the unstable with gleeful abandon.
Today it's the Quran and that centuries old battle of religions vying for popularity among the masses and always the extremist element barking the loudest. To some people, the Crusades just never ended. To other people, the ones spewing hypocritical compassion, the opportunity is just too good to miss.
But there is that thing about books and censorship and "if we just burn it people will forget it ever existed" that's been with us for just as long.
Take for example the incident in Drake North Dakota in 1973, where some allegedly obscene books wound up being exposed to High School students. The culprits were works of Faulkner, Salinger and Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut and the uproar they caused among the righteous.
Drake School Board Official: “The only objection we have is that the language used within the book is not necessarily for sophomore students in high school. They probably do come in contact with that type of language, but we feel we shouldn’t force them to read this type of material.”
Well, the times and circumstances may have changed with reference to High School students, and maybe it's no longer a case of creating mass bonfires of books. But the desire to censor and force dictates of the righteous are still there in the form of Internet Providers and Social Media. The bonfire is no longer accelerated by the match but the delete button.
There is the notion about Hate Speech, but there is also that slippery slope - the difference between inciting and being insightful and how it can be manipulated.
They didn't have that problem in Drake at the time. There are now bigger, more subtle fish to fry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc7rBVUIHUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtqr5G2xCo&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I'm going to burn my 1952 state bible......
Who am i kiding, that bible is worth some money.
I'm going to burn all my ozzy osbourne records. I've heard that those records makes you agressive just like video games and you go on a rampage and KILL FUCKING EVERYONE!
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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I don't give a toss.
if there is an othodox procedure for destroying unusable Korans or Bibles? It wouldn't be "burn it" would it?
I'd have figured a more Bible-belting place like Mississippi or South Carolina.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Don't pay attention to him. Don't cover it. Don't cover it and say "we have to expose these people". Ignore him!!!!! This is what he wants. C&L to cover him. C&L, CNN, MSNBC, Al-Jazeera and the local Tennessee FOX Channel. Ignore the shit out of him.
is intended to be a factual statement
Yah, because that worked so well...er. You are the one man army of ignoring.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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I don't give a toss.
Whether you ignore shit or not
It still stinks...
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This media hungry ahole figured out how to gain all the attention can get (he's still a scrub by Palin standards). But it was still the lead story on Madow tonight. Very disheartening.
The Scarlet Pimpernel...im not making a statement other than that its the most boring book ive ever read in my entire life? I'm pretty sure its a classic simply because its old.
9/11 international burn whatever book you hate day.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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I don't give a toss.
You ever seen the movie with Leslie Howard?
BOOORRRINGG...
But it did at least establish the rich man with a double life that became Tarzan, Zorro, The Shadow, The Spider, The Phantom Detective and Batman.
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I've one time seen a movie with Leslie Nielsen.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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I don't give a toss.
to a taste of Farenheit 451...
Added links and my comment replicates instead of amending?
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Duplicated while editing?
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Christians have a long tradition of book burning, dating back to the first decades of what some call the “Jesus movement.” The Book of Acts in the New Testament records how Christian believers in Ephesus collected books with offensive content (involving “magic” and “spells”) “made a bonfire of them in public.” According to the scripture, “The value of these was calculated to be fifty thousand silver pieces.” This destruction of such literature revealed the power of God (Acts 19:18-19).
But the real wave of book burning started in the fourth century. Then, in the course of one person’s lifetime, Christianity was legalized (by the Edict of Milan in 312), its doctrine standardized by state order at the Council of Nicaea in 325, and under Theodosius I the faith was made virtually compulsory for Roman subjects ca. 390. (Jews were accorded a special exemption.) Believers in Jupiter and the other Greco-Roman gods had a brief reprieve under the rule of Emperor Julian (“the Apostate”) who reigned from 355 to 363. But then came the era of violent Christian intolerance. Temples to the pagan gods were shuttered, destroyed or converted to Christian churches. Manichaeism, the faith from Persia popular in some parts of the empire, was harshly suppressed, along with all pagan cults. Eventually Plato’s Academy in Athens was shut down–all in the name of the Christian God.
Scholars dispute the popular story that a Christian mob burned down the great Library in Alexandria, Egypt in 391. But after the Council of Nicaea, Christians publicly burned the works of Arius, a priest from Alexandria who maintained that Jesus was not God but rather a “creation” of God. (A famous ninth century Italian picture shows Emperor Constantine blessing the incineration.) You weren’t allowed to publish that opinion at that time...
--by Gary Leupp / September 9th, 2010
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you scored the trifecta! Well played...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I wish I could of done that back when Jai alai was big in nearby Newport
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Still going on in South Florida too, but I haven't been to any gambling establishments there.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Even during the Enlightenment the “Imperial Book Commission” of the Holy Roman Empire could order the burning of the writings of the German Deist, Johann Christian Edelmann. Frankfurt’s entire municipal government as well as a large crowd turned out to watch a thousand copies of his works set to the torch in 1750. (Edelmann had dared to declare that Jesus was a man, not a god.)
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The Librorum Prohibitorum was around until 1966, after Vatican II, telling good "Christians" what books they could not read.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It is an old Christian tradition to burn the books of other believers. That´s how the burning down of the Alexandria library (its Serapeum part precisely) was seen as a triumph of Christianity over other religions.
That´s how we got to get Aristoteles, Plato, etc centuries later through the arabs...
Isn´t it a joke?
Yes, it's unfortunate that so many people the world-over, depend so heavily on folklore to function in 2010 no less. :-/
It's an industry and customer base that will destroy itself by it's own self-interests and inertia, though not without much suffering... then again, what's new :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Yes, it's unfortunate that so many people the world-over, depend so heavily on folklore to function in 2010 no less. :-/
It's an industry and customer base that will destroy itself by it's own self-interests and inertia, though not without much suffering... then again, what's new :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
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I've been loving your stuff lately Gordon, keep up the fine work ♥
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I think it was in response to some minister organizing a record burning in the 70s in Minneapolis that a U of Minnesota cartoonist got a group together and they stencilled "Bible Disposal Bin" on city trash cans.
that was awesome.
You'd think we lived in the Dark Ages, well, WE DO! At least the Pugs do.
How do they even function?
Unless people consider obstructing, running the economy into a ditch, bigotry, discrimination, lying, to be considered functioning.
I'm sure there's more, but I'm still on my 1st cup of coffee.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Peaches and Herb were stuck to KC and the Sunshine Band...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
An American classic. What knuckle draggers.
Glenn Beck broke his vacation long enough to give his two cents, as if someone like Jones would listen to someone like Glenn Beck (without reaching for his ax).
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/201...
"The antidote to bad speech is more speech." ~~J.S. Mill
"Das war ein Vorspiel nur, dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen." ("That was but a prelude; where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people also.")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Heine
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