The Reagan Years - Voodoo Economics and James Baker - 1982

(White House Chief of Staff and later Treasury Secretary James Baker with "friend" - coincidence? We think nope.)
Smoke and mirrors, sleight of hand, stratagems and feints - all those characterizations to sum up the Reagan Economics plan. In this interview, part of the CBS News Face The Nation series from August 15, 1982, White House Chief of Staff, later appointed Treasury Secretary James Baker is asked point blank about the wildly varying opinions on the economic state and on the deficit.
George Herman (CBS News): “When do you personally think the deficit may be below $100 billion?”.
James Baker: “Well George, the official figure is of course is what I gave you and I recognize there are differences of opinion with respect to that. I think the point is that . .is that these ballooning deficits that we see are the reason why it is very important that the Congress implement the budget resolution that’s before it and it’s very . . .this is the reason it’s very important that we have a tax bill and that tax bill pass the Congress. Now, it’s really not important when I personally think the deficit might be below $100 billion. In the first place, I’m not an economist, and I really don’t have any independent view of that. The important thing, I think is that we need to constantly keep our eye on the fact that deficits are a major problem in this country. And that the ever expanding size of these deficits keeps interests rates up. And the fact that interest rates are remaining too high is what prevents the recovery from taking place. So it’s very important, we think, that as an administration that we . .that we do some responsible surgery, if you will, on these deficits”.
I guess having knowledge of economics wasn't a prerequisite for being appointed Treasury Secretary in 1985, at least not in the Reagan White House. I think its' safe to say the world o' crap we're in right now didn't necessarily start on January 2001.
But memories tend to be selective and short.
That's why we're here.





if you want to know how things 'really' work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Does it really matter who is in charge of these behemoth government agencies? After all, most that are in charge are politically appointed figure heads anyway, and the organizations are self-correcting. They’ll do their jobs regardless…
WRONG!
Putting Baker in charge of the Department of the Treasury was as stupid as putting Michael Brown in charge of FEMA. The Peter Principle doesn’t even apply to Brown because he never even got to his level of competence. Baker was a political hatchet-man and banking insider. Putting him in charge of the Department of Treasury was like giving the fox a no-bid no-limit perpetual contract to guard the hens.
It matters who is in charge.
Incidentally, that pic looks like it was taken when Baker was serving as Secretary of State (1989-1992).
But the economy is in the tank (except for bankers), and we have interest rates of 0% (for the bankers) to 32% and up (for those borrowing from the bankers).
Corruption favors the wealthy.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/image...
Yeah real funny ...
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
a definite resemblance ... sickening.
oil porn....
Corruption favors the wealthy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
This really is worth a read ...explains a lot.
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
guy is a real prize isn't he?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/James_Ad...
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Those of us who have excellent memories of how this whole world-O-crap came into being have pictures like this in the front of our minds. It is the reason we simply can't abide a young nit wit flapping about Reagan and what a hero some numb nuts think he was. It's good to see the young people digging around and finding this out. The ditch we are in was built by the Republicans... and the present set of Democrats had a hand in the thing too. They're all too greedy to say no to the CORPORATE WHORES FROM K STREET.
We have GOT to get rid of PACS. We have GOT to include an amendment to the CONSTITUTION that states simply, "This document applies to natural persons, who by their singular human nature qualify as citizens."
It’s funny that most of the stories of exaltation regarding Reagan were formed 20 years after he left office. After only 20 years, Reagan limited government, balanced the budget, ended the cold-war, and put an end to welfare-queens. He’s now the conservative brand, and he will be remembered for whatever they want him to have done. Doesn’t matter that he was a senile dolt that did none of these things.
Give them time. Soon he will have walked on water, fed the multitudes with a loaf of bread, healed the sick, and cured the blind as well. Jesus ain’t got nut’n on Ronnie!
Yep I'm old enough to remember this and how it influenced me to become an Econ major after seeing dopes like this in charge of the economy. I wanted to think that Reaganomics was as bad as it gets, but it pales compared to what we're in now. At least during the early Reagan years there was a justification for the economic pain: we were in a huge and unprecedented inflation cycle and at least the bitter pill administered by the Fed had the long term benefit of finally stabilizing prices after a decade-plus out of control. Nowadays the primary mission of the Fed seems to be let institutions run amok under the opposite scenario, an unbelievable low cost of funds for banks while at the same time they are given the green light to rape the consumers with 28% interest and the like, while their GOP/conservadem enablers in Congress say that is necessary to preserve the stability of the system. At this point we are in the most extreme state of corporate welfare for the financial sector in US history. Anyway, that's my piece for now ... cheers C&L.
That about sums it up alright , the government is so corrupt at this point that I think that this country is beyond recovery . The only "virtue" left is greed . I've always said that no one from the outside would defeat or destroy us but that it would be self destruction , lawlessness , greed , the complete abandonment of ethics , principles , common sense and conscience . I believe we the sane and normal people with functioning brains who still have ethics and principles and good human qualities and values , the true Americans , are just about powerless at this point. Oh we can make some waves and hassle them into granting us a little boobie prize but really stopping the corruption and changing what is going on in DC ? It is outta control .
When the group is ready, “Thoughts on a Core Group” explains, it can set to work:
Long-term goals were best summarized in a document called “Youth Corps Vision.” Another Family project, Youth Corps distributes pleasant brochures featuring endorsements from political leaders—among them Tsutomu Hata, a former prime minister of Japan, former secretary of state James Baker, and Yoweri Museveni, president of Uganda—and full of enthusiastic rhetoric about helping young people to learn the principles of leadership. The word “Jesus” is unmentioned in the brochure.
But “Youth Corps Vision,” which is intended only for members of the Family (“it's kinda secret,” Josh cautioned me), is more direct. --Jeff Sharlet
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Server glitch... duplicate.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Good news for the Republican Party...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAk7Hrf2joU
Virtually every Reagan economic policy was an abysmal failure, tempered in the depth of its failure only by the success of policies set in motion by Carter a year or more before Reagan took office.
Reagan entered the White House after the one and only recession during the Carter years, an historicaly brief one of just 6 months (Jan.-June 1980) purposely induced by Fed Chairman Paul Volker in order to reduce Nixon/Ford's out-of-control inflation arc, was completely over, the annualized rate of inflation was ALREADY declining since March 1980 as were Volker's interest rates.
The unemployment rate, which never rose above 7.8% during the Carter years and then for only one month at the peak of said controlled and minimal recession above, was trending decisively DOWNWARD through the last half of 1980 and into the first three quarters of 1981, Reagan's first year in office.
Reagan's intial tax cuts caused revenues to plunge so dramatically he immediately enacted in panic what is still the biggest tax INCREASE of the past 40+ years in real inflation-adjusted terms, with at least 3 more tax increases left to enact during his presidency, unemployment reversed from trending downward during Carter's last year in office and into his first year in the mid-to-low 7s to 8...then 9...then 10...then to 10.8% beginning LATE in his first year in office, not as some mythical hangover from the Carter years, and continuing for the next THREE YEARS.
Mind you, Reagan's policies were presiding over a skyrocketing unemployment rate and abysmal private sector jobs creation over the next few years in the face of DECLINING inflation and DECLINING interest rates! That's how lame they were. By contrast, Carter's economic policies presided over record high private sector jobs creation.
Meanwhile, NONE of Reagan's policies can be tied to whatever minimal increase in revenues during his presidency occurred. They can, however, be tied directly to INCREASES in business taxes gleefully signed into legislation by him. Was there a small increase in the stock market vs the Carter years? Yes, minimal. However, that just might have had something to do with the fact that Carter cut the capital gains tax from 39% to 28% in 1979...and that in 1978 Carter signed into legislation the provision requiring employers to offer the same sweetheart tax advantaged deals for equity investment for a more secure retirement to rank and file employees they offered to their high level executives, one of the biggest tax breaks for retirement investment ever enacted by any president ever...otherwise known as the 401K provsion in the tax code.
Reagan's annual average private sector jobs creation far underperformed Carter's...Reagan's annual average unemployment rate for surpassed Carter's...Reagan's supposed "tax cuts" were far less effective for positive impact vs Carter's.
When Reagan famously asked in October 1980, "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" the CORRECT answer was a resounding YES. Asking the same question 4 years later, the CORRECT answer was a resounding NO. Asked 4 years after that if we were better off than we were 8 years earlier, the CORRECT answer was still NO. Same with the end of Bush1's 4 years...the "It's the economy, Stupid!" election that he lost because "Reaganomics" was STILL a disaster, and the ansswer was still NO.
Only after Clinton and his Democratic Congress REVERSED Reagan's Supply-Side economic policies (again, without a single Republican vote for the revolutionary Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993) did the economy improve and improve dramtically for the vast majority of Americans for the next several years.
Comments are closed on this entry